First off:
See the "Genesis", "moon formation", "planet
density", and "pre-sun" articles, or refer
to them for further discussion of the topics
included here.
Continuing on:
So since God described a "pre-sun" star that
made our solar system, did God describe other
"pre-sun" stars? How can you know that's what
he's describing? Where does he describe them?
YES, God did describe other "pre-sun" stars,
but he called them "morning stars".
To some this may seem confusing, since the
common reading of "morning star" is that it's
a reference to the planet venus. But this is
quickly resolved in that the bible specifically
calls out "morning stars" (plural) in the text.
So for the bible to call out "morning stars"
PLURAL, that would imply multiple venus's
of which, there can only be one. As such,
God isn't referencing the planet venus in
his discussion of "morning stars".
Also, Jesus plainly stated that he is the
morning star. So would that make Jesus
the planet venus? No, and for the same
reason as given above.
Then how could what Jesus said make any sense?
Well, it all falls into place when you realize
that Jesus was said in the New Testament to
have formed creation and he was around from
the beginning. Since Jesus is the ARM OF GOD,
it's understandable that he could in fact form
creation.
Notice though, Jesus is forming creation
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from the BEGINNING
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So when is the beginning? Where is it described?
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The first "God day", in Genesis.
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For Jesus to have begun forming creation in
that first "God day", he's basically working
on that "pre-sun" star, building the "firmament"
ring that would eventually explode, later
to form the solar system's planets, moons, the
sun, etc...
But notice, Jesus said the MORNING star.
Genesis's "God days" start in the evening and
end in the morning. Hence for a "morning star",
you'd have to see the "pre-sun" star lighting up
in the BEGINNING, yet in the latter half of
the 2 billion year time slot of the first "God day".
Genesis does in fact list the "let there be light"
and "separated the light (energy) from the
darkness (matter)" as the latter half items done
in the first "God day". Clearly this is correct.
So basically, Jesus has said that the "pre-sun"
star would have lit up within 1 to 2 billion
years after the big bang.
And guess what... science agrees, some initial
stars did in fact light up within 1 to 2 billion
years after the big bang.
From there, God's ARM (Jesus) formed the
"firmament" within the "waters" making up
the "pre-sun" star, and then the "pre-sun" star
later exploded, matter shooting outwards, some
returning, some orbiting the eventual sun
that would form from the regathered matter.
The "firmament" forming and exploding therefore
occurred during the 2-4 billion year time
slot of the 2nd "God day".
And the basis for the "morning star" being
correctly given is shown in Job:
Job 38:4 6 Where wast thou when I laid the
foundations of the earth? declare,
if thou hast understanding.
(The foundations of the earth are the initial
"waters" (or lighter elements) making up the
"pre-sun" star.)
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof,
if thou knowest? or who hath stretched
the line upon it?
(Obviously the ARM OF GOD laid the measures of it.
The "line upon it" is the "firmament" ring that
formed within the "pre-sun" star. That "firmament"
ring later exploded and the regathering matter
formed the planets and moons).
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof
fastened? or who laid the corner stone
thereof;
(The "foundations" or "waters" are fastened or
set to orbit where our present day sun is, at
the relative center of the solar system, the
same relative position of the "pre-sun" star.
In the original Hebrew, the "corner stone" can
be read as the "corner hailstone" or basically
the first large chunk of frozen "waters" beginning
to regather to form earth after that "firmament"
explosion.
God was exactly right in each case, in that the
center of mass would remain relatively constant even
after the "pre-sun" star explodes. The "foundations"
of the earth would still be "fastened" to that
relative position, the regathering matter for earth
would then orbit the regathering matter for the sun.
The regathering matter to form earth would initially
be frozen lighter elements or "waters", the largest
peice initially being much like a large hailstone.)
7 When the morning stars sang together,
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
And here you have it, God is talking about the
original "foundations" or "waters", and that the
morning stars ("pre-sun" stars, given as PLURAL),
are a specific reference to all the initial stars
lighting up right after the big bang.
Science agrees, many stars lit up fairly early,
within the first 1 to 2 billion years after the
big bang. God's statement that they would light
up in the "morning" refers to the LATTER half of
the 2 billion year period of the first "God day".
Basically, for our solar system to exist, said
"pre-sun" star would in fact have to start up
fairly soon after the big bang, then later explode,
then the planets would gather from that initial
matter shot outwards. The sun also would later
light up from the matter returning to form it.
It's obvious that God was right in Job, that God
was referencing that "pre-sun" star as part of the
initial creation events, of which the New Testament
agrees that Jesus (the ARM OF GOD) was the one
forming such.
Jesus later says in revelation that he is the
bright and morning star, basically confirming his
making such a "pre-sun" star. Of which, to explode
so soon after the big bang, that "pre-sun" star
would in fact have to burn BRIGHTLY.
God was exactly right.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
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